Started in North Van at the base of Mt. Fromme, worked up to the peak then down the back side of the mountain. A bit hard to stay on trail on the way up, however with the assistance of GPS were were able to stay on track. Coming down the back side of Mt. Fromme we encountered signage warning about the trail state, however we found it was in great shape. Erik the red goes down into a gully past boulders, a creek and up towards thunderbird ridge. Check out thunderbird ridge on the way back, its worth it.